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    That's my beef with Rosenkavalier. Condense it down into about 90 minutes and then I'd probably like it.

    Too many notes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
    Too many notes?
    Isn't it Die Entführung aus dem Seraglio which has too many notes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
    Too many notes?
    Too many dull notes in between the good bits. Let's cut a lot of Ochs out to start with.
    Natalie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    Too many dull notes in between the good bits. Let's cut a lot of Ochs out to start with.
    Yes, it does have gorgeous parts, but it is not my favorite precisely for this reason. It remains quite indecisive between comedy and seriousness and then it becomes too long in parts.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    Yes, it does have gorgeous parts, but it is not my favorite precisely for this reason. It remains quite indecisive between comedy and seriousness and then it becomes too long in parts.
    I love the blend of comedy and not so comedy,there's something about the blend which gives it its beauty I think. Pacing though...that is a different matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    Yes, it does have gorgeous parts, but it is not my favorite precisely for this reason. It remains quite indecisive between comedy and seriousness and then it becomes too long in parts.

    But, since it's Strauss, all is perfectly resolved at the bittersweet end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    Yes, it does have gorgeous parts, but it is not my favorite precisely for this reason. It remains quite indecisive between comedy and seriousness and then it becomes too long in parts.
    Why does an opera have to decide between comedy and seriousness? Why not embrace both?

    I don't find Der Rosenkavalier any more indecisive on this point than, say, Le nozze di Figaro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekrotzar View Post
    I love the blend of comedy and not so comedy,there's something about the blend which gives it its beauty I think. Pacing though...that is a different matter.
    Yes, I agree, the pacing is irregular and the whole opera overblown.
    Natalie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    Yes, I agree, the pacing is irregular and the whole opera overblown.
    Enough people have voiced this criticism, there may well be truth to it. I have to confess, though, I'm blind to that failing.

    I find the pacing varied, which is a good thing, and the whole opera extravagant, which isn't always a good thing, but somehow fitting for this improbable Wagner-cum-Mozart hybrid.

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    Ordered today:
    Necessities of life: food, water, air, shelter, and opera.

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    my parents have banned me from spending all my money on opera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekrotzar View Post
    my parents have banned me from spending all my money on opera
    It is good that there are a good number of operas on You Tube with English Subtitles. Sorry to hear the news. But tell them it is good and they should be pleased you spend it on opera rather than drugs, booze, etc such as many others do.
    Necessities of life: food, water, air, shelter, and opera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    It is good that there are a good number of operas on You Tube with English Subtitles. Sorry to hear the news. But tell them it is good and they should be pleased you spend it on opera rather than drugs, booze, etc such as many others do.
    Heh, I may be overreacting to some comments my parents made about my inability to save...which is what I shall do from now on. I will just put all my money aside with the intention of travelling to BAYREUTH

    or...get a house...you know
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    And yeah, there's always youtube and spotify!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekrotzar View Post
    my parents have banned me from spending all my money on opera
    Spending all of our money on opera . . . Nothing that anyone here at OL would know anything about!

    And you could always try pointing out to your parents what sorts of horrible things you might be spending your money on if you weren't spending it on opera.

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