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    Clayton, it appears that you are listening to quite a bit of Bel Canto. Bravo!! It builds both character and sensitivity. All that heavily orchestrated Northern European stuff that needs heldensingers to shout out over the orchestra will harm your hearing, diminish your sensitivity and cause you to think about attending mass outdoor rallies of the political sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGerald View Post
    ...and cause you to think about attending mass outdoor rallies of the political sort.
    No heldensingers in Kaschey the Deathless...

    though I have this warm feeling recently like I have just discovered Rossini

    with La Donna and Tancredi (thanks to a few nudges by OL members)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGerald View Post
    Clayton, it appears that you are listening to quite a bit of Bel Canto. Bravo!! It builds both character and sensitivity. All that heavily orchestrated Northern European stuff that needs heldensingers to shout out over the orchestra will harm your hearing, diminish your sensitivity and cause you to think about attending mass outdoor rallies of the political sort.
    Some alternatives to Herr Wagner ( I assume you are referring to him) AND to 19C Italian Bel Canto are plangent, pastoral or bravado Baroque (actually the original bel canto), charming delicate Classical, lyrical melancholy Russian, graceful French, heart-tugging atmospheric Britten, or spiky challenging modernist. No Heldensingers necessarily required in any of those either.
    Natalie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    Some alternatives to Herr Wagner ( I assume you are referring to him) AND to 19C Italian Bel Canto are plangent, pastoral or bravado Baroque (actually the original bel canto), charming delicate Classical, lyrical melancholy Russian, graceful French, heart-tugging atmospheric Britten, or spiky challenging modernist. No Heldensingers necessarily required in any of those either.
    I might also put in a plug here for Herr Wagner and the Heldensingers. But if you folks will excuse me, I have a mass outdoor political rally to attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    ...Baroque (actually the original bel canto)...
    I read somewhere a comment [by a baritone speaking to a writer his thought] that belcanto period ended about the time of Rossini and that composers after that were belcantoesque/belcantissimo that remembered the traditions of belcanto writing from earlier period.
    I was trying to recall the details, and went through the booklets of the last sixty or so CD purchases and several issues of opera magazines. It was driving me nuts. Never found it again.
    Does anyone know?

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    I may have taken a wrong turn yesterday but eventually, all roads lead to... err... the opera that you need to listen to...

    Poulenc: The Carmelites
    Dialogues des Carmélites Sung in English (translation by Joseph Machlis)
    Catrin Wyn-Davies (Blanche de la Force), Ashley Holland (Marquis de la Force), Peter Wedd (Chevalier de la Force), Felicity Palmer (Madame de Croissy), Orla Boylan (Madame Lidoine), Dame Josephine Barstow (Mother Marie), Sarah Tynan (Sister Constance)
    English National Opera Chorus & English National Opera Orchestra, Paul Daniel CBE
    This is the premiere recording in English
    Recorded October 2005, Blackheath Halls, London

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    I had initially thought about listening to both this and the Bertrand de Billy recording but after one round decided that the human heart (well mine at least) is not designed to receive such battering as listening to this opera twice in a row. I'll come back to the other recording once I have sufficiently recovered spiritually.
    I can thoroughly recommend this recording/opera or advise you to stay away, depends on which way you look at it.

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    Hanging around waiting to be selected for jury service does have its good points, as long as you remember your headphones.

    Massenet: Le Jongleur de Notre-Dame


    Roberto Alagna, Stefano Antonucci & Francesco Ellero d’Artegna
    Orchestre National de Montpellier Languedoc Roussillon, Enrique Diemecke

    Dallapiccola: Il prigioniero


    Maurizio Mazzieri (The Prisoner ), Giulia Barrera (The Mother ), Romano Emili (The Jailer / The Grand inquisitor)
    The University of Maryland Chorus & National Symphony Orchestra, Washington D.C., Antal Dorati

    Rubinstein: The Demon



    Alexander Polyakov (Demon), Nina Lebedeva (Tamara), Evgeny Vladimirov (Gudal), Alexey Usmanov (Sinodal), Nina Grigorieva (Nanny), Nina Derbina (Angel), Yury Elnikov (Messenger), Boris Morozov (Old Servant)
    Academic Choir of the USSR All-Union Radio, Symphony Orchestra of the USSR All-Union Radio, Boris Khaikin
    Natalie

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    that was a long wait, no wonder some people are worried about the disruption to their schedule that jury service brings

    well someone has to put the baddies behind bars


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    needing something light and gay after the emotional sledgehammer that was The Carmelites yesterday

    (even if Acis does get crushed to death by a great rock)

    Handel: Acis and Galatea
    Sophie Daneman (Galatea), Paul Agnew (Acis), Alan Ewing (Polyphemus), Francois Piolino (Tenor), David Le Monnier (Baritone), Andrew Sinclair (Tenor), Joseph Cornwell (Coridon) & Patricia Petibon (Damon)
    Les Arts Florissants
    William Christie
    Recorded 10-13 May 1998, Salle Wigram, Paris

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    ki still not aligned

    I went back for some more Fantasio

    Offenbach: Fantasio
    Sarah Connolly (Fantasio), Brenda Rae (Elsbeth), Russell Braun (Le prince), Brindley Sherratt (Le Roi) & Neal Davies (Sparck)
    Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment
    Sir Mark Elder
    Recorded December 2013, Henry Wood Hall, London

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    much better now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton View Post

    needing something light and gay after the emotional sledgehammer that was The Carmelites yesterday

    (even if Acis does get crushed to death by a great rock)

    Handel: Acis and Galatea
    Sophie Daneman (Galatea), Paul Agnew (Acis), Alan Ewing (Polyphemus), Francois Piolino (Tenor), David Le Monnier (Baritone), Andrew Sinclair (Tenor), Joseph Cornwell (Coridon) & Patricia Petibon (Damon)
    Les Arts Florissants
    William Christie
    Recorded 10-13 May 1998, Salle Wigram, Paris

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    Oooh nice! I think I'll get this.
    "The world calls them its singers and poets and artists and storytellers; but they are just people who have never forgotten the way to fairyland."
    Lucy Maud Montgomery

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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    Oooh nice! I think I'll get this.
    I am turning in to a bigger fan of Les Arts Florissants and William Christie every time I hear his works

    and now I know of his love of gardening (opera and gardening, his two passions) again, a bigger fan now!

    I was looking at his garden and opera project and ws investigating ticket availabilty and price (Les fêtes vénitiennes, Campra)

    http://www.arts-florissants.com/

    but I could not figure out how to find the English page (if there is one)

    that looks REALLY amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton View Post
    I am turning in to a bigger fan of Les Arts Florissants and William Christie every time I hear his works

    and now I know of his love of gardening (opera and gardening, his two passions) again, a bigger fan now!

    I was looking at his garden and opera project and ws investigating ticket availabilty and price (Les fêtes vénitiennes, Campra)

    http://www.arts-florissants.com/

    but I could not figure out how to find the English page (if there is one)

    that looks REALLY amazing
    Looks interesting. English version top right hand corner of screen. If I was clever I'd do a screen print with a circle. But I'm not.
    "The world calls them its singers and poets and artists and storytellers; but they are just people who have never forgotten the way to fairyland."
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    Thank you

    (so English version basically where it always is)


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    everybody loves the Kaufmann

    but we don't care for the coughing man in the audience...

    Hey!

    who threw that rotten egg at me?


    move on... move on... move on... move on... move on... move on... move on... move on... move on... move on... move on...

    Gluck: Il Trionfo di Clelia
    Hélène Le Corre (Clelia), Mary-Ellen Nesi (Orazio), Irini Karainni (Tarquinio), Burçu Uyar (Larissa), Vassilis Kavayas (Porsenna), Florin Cezar Ouatu (Mannio)
    Armonia Atenea
    Giuseppe Sigismondi de Risio
    Recorded 13-19 July 2011, The recording centre of Megaron, The Athens Concert Hall

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    No! there is no English libretto here and being a premier recording there is no alternative to find. It is a Metastasio libretto so reasonably well documented (Hasse also composed an opera) considering the Gluck version has only recently been rediscovered but I could only find literature in Italian (available for GBP 4.99 at the A site). Oh and there is the full score on sale for USD 3 billion at stores selling sheet music (eg PC) but I should think that is only for the music and probably 18C Italian text...
    BUT
    I would still say this is a get...
    You may be flying a bit blind here (like no artificial horizon or altitude meter) but there is a synopsis and you can fill in the gaps a bit with you imagination. Wonderful.

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