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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    As long as you didn't have to renounce love to obtain it.
    Ooh! This belongs in the ideas for a new opera thread

    The composer who renounced love to take the Solti Cd out of the plastic and became the prince of darkness, Nekrotzar.

    This is brilliant. Nekrotzar can write the music, Amfortas (possibly known as Anne of Green Gables) can write the libretto and I'll make the sandwiches.

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    Oh and JohnGerald can look into the legal issues incase the Wagner estate sees something wrong.

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    I'm pretty sure they'll see something wrong, whether it becomes a legal issue or not.

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    That sounds like you do not have confidence in the project. Is it my sandwiches?

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    WAGNER - Götterdämmerung WWV 86D

    Brünnhilde - Astrid Varnay
    Siegfried - Wolfgang Windgassen
    Hagen - Josef Greindl
    Alberich - Gustav Neidlinger
    Gunther - Hermann Uhde
    Gutrune - Natalie Hinsch-Gröndahl
    Waltraute - Ira Malaniuk
    Woglinde - Erika Zimmermann
    Wellgunde - Hetty Plümacher
    Floßhilde - Gisela Litz
    1. Norne - Maria von Ilosvay
    2. Norne - Ira Malaniuk
    3. Norne - Regina Resnik


    Choir and Orchestra of the Bayreuth Festival
    conductor Clemens Krauss
    Source information:

    Live concert recording, Bayreuth Festival, 12th August 1953

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    Yes, yes, yes, yes

    Fantastic. Mysterious, dark, romantic, sad, dark, romantic, sinister, romantic, fantastic, tragic, beautiful...

    It all works so well, all the characters so wonderfully rich and expressive, the music so enrapturing with all the drama brought together in a tremendous finale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton View Post
    Ooh! This belongs in the ideas for a new opera thread

    The composer who renounced love to take the Solti Cd out of the plastic and became the prince of darkness, Nekrotzar.

    This is brilliant. Nekrotzar can write the music, Amfortas (possibly known as Anne of Green Gables) can write the libretto and I'll make the sandwiches.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Oh and JohnGerald can look into the legal issues incase the Wagner estate sees something wrong.
    Won't work. The person who enabled me access to Solti's Ring is still with me. But it would make s nice fictional piece I suppose.
    If you would seek salvation, remember this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton View Post
    WAGNER - Götterdämmerung WWV 86D

    Brünnhilde - Astrid Varnay
    Siegfried - Wolfgang Windgassen
    Hagen - Josef Greindl
    Alberich - Gustav Neidlinger
    Gunther - Hermann Uhde
    Gutrune - Natalie Hinsch-Gröndahl
    Waltraute - Ira Malaniuk
    Woglinde - Erika Zimmermann
    Wellgunde - Hetty Plümacher
    Floßhilde - Gisela Litz
    1. Norne - Maria von Ilosvay
    2. Norne - Ira Malaniuk
    3. Norne - Regina Resnik


    Choir and Orchestra of the Bayreuth Festival
    conductor Clemens Krauss
    Source information:

    Live concert recording, Bayreuth Festival, 12th August 1953

    Name:  Götterdämmerung - Clemens Krauss 1953.jpg
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    Yes, yes, yes, yes

    Fantastic. Mysterious, dark, romantic, sad, dark, romantic, sinister, romantic, fantastic, tragic, beautiful...

    It all works so well, all the characters so wonderfully rich and expressive, the music so enrapturing with all the drama brought together in a tremendous finale.
    And what of the audio? When it comes to old Wagner recordings I unfortunately can't abide audio that hasn't been remastered.
    If you would seek salvation, remember this:
    a life in Hell can still aspire to BLISS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton View Post
    That sounds like you do not have confidence in the project. Is it my sandwiches?


    Umm...no. It's most likely the sandwich spread:



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    Inspired by my test of the new headphones:



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    A most excellent recording!



    Followed by something completely different:



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    I find that the best way to test headphone quality is Baroque. The current ones I have are just outdated iPhone earphones which are absolutely horrendous when listening to Vivaldi or Rameau on period instruments.

    Testing with Wagner is good too, especially how they handle the dynamic range.

    Contemporary opera would probably be a good test for clarity, but as always, the repertoire is soooo varied that it depends on individual operas.
    If you would seek salvation, remember this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
    Umm...no. It's most likely the sandwich spread:



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    If it's anything at all like Vegemite, then I would be extremely happy to eat those sandwiches!
    If you would seek salvation, remember this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekrotzar View Post
    I've been looking at clips on YouTube of various productions of Der Ring, specifically the end of Die Walküre...so now I'm listening to the whole of that opera.



    Btw, don't tell anyone I have this box set, it isn't stolen per se, but there are certain people whom I can't let know that I've taken it out of the plastic...because...reasons.
    Only got until halfway through act 2 would you believe it....must finish this! The final moments of this opera are absolutely magical.
    If you would seek salvation, remember this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekrotzar View Post
    And what of the audio? When it comes to old Wagner recordings I unfortunately can't abide audio that hasn't been remastered.
    You can listen to a sound sample at his website

    https://www.pristineclassical.com/paco040.html

    The sound is excellent and difficult to believe it is a live performance from 1953. There must have been much work done here but at no expense to the character of the voices and orchestra.

    As shallow as my experience is with the older recordings, I do believe that there are few, if any, engineers working today with the skill, research and passion as Andrew Rose. This coupled with the freedom he has in selecting the recordings and projects he chooses to work on (Pristine Audio is a company started by Rose) means that the catalogue is of great recordings remastered and brought back to life with sincere respect to the original sound.

    I have several of his works and they are all treasures.

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    Name:  Das Rheingold - Clemens Krauss 1953.jpg
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    Both very thrilling

    Now where to go? I already helped myself to Siegfried and Götterdämmerung... but I want to finish the cycle

    Fast forward to 1966/1967 and Böhm I think.

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    It has been a while and I forgot how much I like the Böhm cycle.

    It is the first Der Ring des Nibelungen that I heard and this recording was the one that made Siegfried sound so exciting. Wolfgang Windgassen was fifty-two years old by the time of this performance but I can hear youthful recklessness and Erwin Wohlfahrt's Mime is colourful enough to portray somewhere between the pantomime villain and just a despicable character that ties this between fantasy and a more human drama.

    Recorded at the 1966 and 1967 Bayreuth festival (Siegfried was from 1966), sound technology has progressed so much from the decade before and this one can compete with many twenty-first century recordings.

    This remains my recommended recording.

    Siegfried
    Wolfgang Windgassen (Siegfried), Erwin Wohlfahrt (Mime), Theo Adam (Der Wanderer), Gustav Neidlinge (Alberich), Kurt Böhme (Fafner), Birgit Nilsson (Brünnhilde), Vera Soukupova (Erda), Erika Köth (Waldvogel)
    Chor und Orchester der Bayreuther Festspiele, Karl Böhm
    1966

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    Ok, so where does the fabled Solti Ring figure into your calculation?

    I haven't heard the Krauss, but acknowledge that your enthusiastic recommendation makes it sound very appealing. On the other hand, I'm not crazy about Böhm's Das Rheingold.

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