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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    Tolstoy took pains to show us that women high in Russian society thought nothing of taking lovers.
    He also showed there was considerable risk involved. Anna Karenina isn't exactly a comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but it's just an opera.
    What do you mean, just an opera? Opera is life.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    He left too much out which in some cases changed the implications. But opera librettos are shorter than novels. Paradoxically, he could have changed less about the story if he had hewn less closely to Pushkin's text. Because hewing closely, all he could do was delete stuff, not allude to its deletion.
    Well, he did change a bunch of things, like the sequence of events leading to the duel and Olga's participation in them.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    Tolstoy took pains to show us that women high in Russian society thought nothing of taking lovers.
    Right.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    What do you mean, just an opera? Opera is life.
    Oops. My bad. What was I thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    Oops. My bad. What was I thinking?
    Too late. I've already unleashed the assassins. I can't let you live after you said that. They should be blocking all exits anytime now. There are penguins as well.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    He also showed there was considerable risk involved. Anna Karenina isn't exactly a comedy.
    Anna's "crime" was that she fell passionately in love. That was the one thing her society had no tolerance for.
    “The hand of Providence creeps among the stars, giving Slothrop the finger.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    Anna's "crime" was that she fell passionately in love. That was the one thing her society had no tolerance for.
    And that's part of the risk in taking a lover. Things may go too far.

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    COOL

    But James King sounds pretty fragile up there, for someone knows as heldentenor. Only Mario del Monaco and Jon Vickers seem to be capable of singing Samson with a voice that really fits the character demolishing the temple with bare hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post


    COOL

    But James King sounds pretty fragile up there, for someone knows as heldentenor. Only Mario del Monaco and Jon Vickers seem to be capable of singing Samson with a voice that really fits the character demolishing the temple with bare hands.
    This dude is a pretty capable temple demolisher. But not a heldentenor type--more of a dramatic basso profundo...


    Back on topic, this is my favorite Samson et Dalila:
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    This is the first time I've listened to this in some time (it's one of the cd sets I found in my basement a month or so ago). I had been listening to the Giulini w/Domingo, Caballe, Milnes and Verrett - but I think I like the Solti better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
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    This is the first time I've listened to this in some time (it's one of the cd sets I found in my basement a month or so ago). I had been listening to the Giulini w/Domingo, Caballe, Milnes and Verrett - but I think I like the Solti better.
    If you are in the mood for A-B comparisons, let me loan you this one next time I see you and see what you think:
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    Well, 1958 Giulini certainly has the male roles pinned down. I not familiar with the female principals, however. I would be happy to add it to my collection!

    I also have a live La Scala performance that I rarely listen to since its complete with feet shuffling, coughing, applause, etc:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
    Well, 1958 Giulini certainly has the male roles pinned down. I not familiar with the female principals, however. I would be happy to add it to my collection!

    I also have a live La Scala performance that I rarely listen to since its complete with feet shuffling, coughing, applause, etc:

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    OK. Will bring with me for Oresteia.
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    I’ve definitely decided that I Lombardi is my least favourite Verdi opera, although it does have some lovely music, especially the violin solo before Oronte’s death. I think the problem is that there are two stories, with the conflict between the two brothers being so much more powerful that the rather trite star crossed lovers plot point. This is in contrast to the much more taut drama in I due Foscari which I saw the other day. This production is quite serviceable and the singing is OK, but nothing that is going to change my mind about this opera.



    I found this production of Madama Butterfly so moving (partly due to Patricia Racette and partly the little puppet Sorrow, that I’ve decided to buy the DVD (saw it on YT).



    Ciro in Babilonia is not one of Rossini’s more engaging operas, but Podleś and Pratt are great and the Cecile B de Mille production is spot on.



    This is my first encounter with Die Soldaten. A depressing story alla Wozzeck, Berg meets Jazz, a massive orchestra, fiendishly hard to sing (some of the singers get a bit hoarse with all the huge interval leaps). But the great thing about this DVD is the amazing set which runs all the width of the Salzburger Felsenreitschule, complete with horses and roistering soldiers. There is even a tightrope walking sequence. Recommended.



    Boris Godunov - Another good production from the Met (I think you saw this live, Alma). René Pape is my favourite currently active bass. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him sound less than gorgeous.

    I’d forgotten what fun Il Barbiere di Siviglia is – this production from L’Opera de Lille has an energetic young cast in a lively production. Still available to stream.

    I’ve subscribed to Spotify premium which is fun as you can do some no pressure exploring.



    Natalie

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