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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    Most likely, but not entirely warranted. In an interview a while ago, she said how DG did not listen to her concerns about the CD of La Traviata - she felt that she was breathy given the physicality of the show, and thought that the DVD/Blu-ray was OK because people would *see* why she was breathy, therefore they should stick with the DVD/blu-ray and not release the CD; the executives went just ahead and released the CD with no consideration for what she was saying.
    Well that situation is understandable. DG would have had a contract with her for the CD and DVD. After the fact, she decided the DVD was enough. But DG would have considered the number of copies they could sell and that they likely already paid her advances for both (very usual for top talent such as Netrebko) and would have gone with their contract which gave them the right to release both. But that same contract probably gave Netrebko the right to approve the covers, etc. as that is part of her "image" which she needs to preserve. At least I don't know why she would have signed any agreement these days as a big star which doesn't give her a veto right on elements associated with her image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    Well that situation is understandable. DG would have had a contract with her for the CD and DVD. After the fact, she decided the DVD was enough. But DG would have considered the number of copies they could sell and that they likely already paid her advances for both (very usual for top talent such as Netrebko) and would have gone with their contract which gave them the right to release both. But that same contract probably gave Netrebko the right to approve the covers, etc. as that is part of her "image" which she needs to preserve. At least I don't know why she would have signed any agreement these days as a big star which doesn't give her a veto right on elements associated with her image.
    Yes, you are most likely right. I guess I'm just in denial and trying to believe against the facts that it isn't La Bellissima who is endorsing this photoshopping. I keep seeing pictures of her with her current real looks and keep thinking that she looks very hot and beautiful in spite of the extra kilos (e.g. the Opera News cover you've just posted), and then we keep seeing these photoshopped images. Go figure... I guess it's part of female psychology. They hate anything that gets close to the word "fat" so even though she says the opposite in interviews, I guess she gets tempted by the thinning that Photoshop provides. But this backfires on her image. The detractors have been active in the Internet, mocking her for the photoshopping; there are spoofs of this cover. I think she should proudly acknowledge her kilos and say - "so what? You, detractor, would be lucky if your wife or girlfriend looked like me."
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    Being something of the neighborhood expert on Russian women (having married not one, but two of them at different time )
    It's probably even more fun to marry two of them at the same time [Alma looks longingly at the map of Utah]
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Let's get this thread back some sanity now:

    Well, I'm slowly making my way through the Keilberth stereo Ring.
    My initial impression is that the recorded sound is wonderful, the voices are amazing, but the conducting is so so.
    The tempis , to me, are somewhat erratic and Keilberth doesn't seem to have
    control over the orchestra like Krauss or Bohm.
    These are still wonderful recordings though and a must for all Wagnerians.
    Well, see? The Keilberth recording is not as good as Anna's Verdi! [Hehehe, apples and oranges, but what a tasty apple! ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    "You, detractor, would be lucky if your wife or girlfriend looked like me."
    With a little tinkering, you might have a hit song there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    With a little tinkering, you might have a hit song there.
    If I compose it, will she sing it, and pay me back by dumping her husband and marrying me?
    Oh wait, I forgot we are very close cousins. Inbreeding. Never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    If I compose it, will she sing it, and pay me back by dumping her husband and marrying me?
    Oh wait, I forgot we are very close cousins. Inbreeding. Never mind.
    Yes, you'll have to stick with just being Kissing Cousins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    It's probably even more fun to marry two of them at the same time [Alma looks longingly at the map of Utah]
    I've told wife #2 that she needs to let wife #3 and I to move in with her. She can be the "mom" of the family--feed and clothe us, while we just go to operas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    Being something of the neighborhood expert on Russian women (having married not one, but two of them at different time ) I have to say that based on my experience, Netrebko would have insisted on a right of veto over the cover!
    So pleased with the at different time clarification!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    So pleased with the at different time clarification!
    Hey, read post # 1833; it looks like he is planning to do away with the at different time part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    Go figure... I guess it's part of female psychology. They hate anything that gets close to the word "fat" so even though she says the opposite in interviews, I guess she gets tempted by the thinning that Photoshop provides. But this backfires on her image. The detractors have been active in the Internet, mocking her for the photoshopping; there are spoofs of this cover.
    That's what you get for hanging out on Parterre Box! La Cieca has moved on from photoshopping himself on various characters to photoshopping Anna instead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroneslothrop View Post
    That's what you get for hanging out on Parterre Box! La Cieca has moved on from photoshopping himself on various characters to photoshopping Anna instead!
    Me, hanging out on Parterre Box? NEVER!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post

    Me, hanging out on Parterre Box? NEVER!!!
    Sorry! Just that La Cieca has the largest cache of reshopped Netrebko Verdi covers!
    Last edited by tyroneslothrop; August 16th, 2013 at 07:28 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva) View Post
    Yes, you are most likely right. I guess I'm just in denial and trying to believe against the facts that it isn't La Bellissima who is endorsing this photoshopping. I keep seeing pictures of her with her current real looks and keep thinking that she looks very hot and beautiful in spite of the extra kilos (e.g. the Opera News cover you've just posted), and then we keep seeing these photoshopped images. Go figure... I guess it's part of female psychology. They hate anything that gets close to the word "fat" so even though she says the opposite in interviews, I guess she gets tempted by the thinning that Photoshop provides. But this backfires on her image. The detractors have been active in the Internet, mocking her for the photoshopping; there are spoofs of this cover. I think she should proudly acknowledge her kilos and say - "so what? You, detractor, would be lucky if your wife or girlfriend looked like me."
    You know Alma, I don't know how many times you have talked about Anna's weight since she had her son, but I would guess at least twenty posts where you call her chubby, curvy, rounded and talk about how she is *still* beautiful *despite* the extra kilos. And she is actually in no way fat, well within normal range for a woman of her age who has had a child. And then you say women don't like to be called fat. Well I say, don't keep talking about their weight then.
    Natalie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    You know Alma, I don't know how many times you have talked about Anna's weight since she had her son, but I would guess at least twenty posts where you call her chubby, curvy, rounded and talk about how she is *still* beautiful *despite* the extra kilos. And she is actually in no way fat, well within normal range for a woman of her age who has had a child. And then you say women don't like to be called fat. Well I say, don't keep talking about their weight then.
    LOL. I know what would happen to me if I went to my wife and told her: "Sweetheart, I don't mind your weight at all--you carry your fat well!" It doesn't matter if she is 80lbs or 180, that would not go over well.
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