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HarpsichordConcerto
October 7th, 2012, 06:20 AM
As we are aware, many of us here are simply addicted to hoarding copies of operas whether on CD, DVD, Blu-ray or even LP. I was wondering which opera you happen to have acquired the most versions of over the years becoming the opera lover that you are. You might well be a newbie to opera, and if so, by all means please also share with us your journey so far. The criteria is that the opera recording must be a complete recording of the work, "highlights" do not count.

I frankly do not know the correct answer in my collection but I have confidence it is Handel's Giulio Cesare in Egitto. :adoration: I will have 9 versions in all: 7 that I currently have (picture below) plus 2 others that I know I shall buy. Surprise, surprise.

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9 = 7 + 2

Two other versions on my radar, include a soon to release version by Handelian conductor Alan Curtis (November this year from label Naïve), and this new one with a ridiculous staging but I shall acquire for the music.

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Ann Lander (sospiro)
October 7th, 2012, 06:41 AM
As we are aware, many of us here are simply addicted to hoarding copies of operas whether on CD, DVD, Blu-ray or even LP. I was wondering which opera you happen to have acquired the most versions of over the years becoming the opera lover that you are. You might well be a newbie to opera, and if so, by all means please also share with us your journey so far. The criteria is that the opera recording must be a complete recording of the work, "highlights" do not count. Surprise, surprise.

Simon Boccanegra. Surprise, surprise.

Two CDs & five DVDs + recording off the TV which was from a different night but not sure if that counts as another one.

Favourite CD

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Favourite DVD (of course :biggrin: )

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Schigolch
October 7th, 2012, 09:57 AM
Norma.

I'm well ahead of one hundred.

MAuer
October 7th, 2012, 01:46 PM
Norma.

I'm well ahead of one hundred.

Heavens! And I thought I had a Fidelio addiction! Speaking of which, I have one DVD (the Zürich version with Nylund and Kaufmann, of course!), plus 11 audio recordings, three of which are of the original 1805 version. So far, I've resisted the temptation to purchase another final version with Beňačková and Rolfe-Johnson, and another 1805 version with Martinpelto and Begley.

Soave_Fanciulla
October 7th, 2012, 10:20 PM
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What do you think of this one, HC? I've long been tempted by it because I'm fond of Mijanovic.

Soave_Fanciulla
October 7th, 2012, 10:29 PM
Don Giovanni. 6 audio and 20 video. And I'm seriously considering getting the new one out with Arcangelo and co.

I won't post them all but here are some that I like:

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and a couple that I don't like AT ALL:

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HarpsichordConcerto
October 7th, 2012, 10:31 PM
Norma.

I'm well ahead of one hundred.

Are there that many recordings of Norma?

HarpsichordConcerto
October 7th, 2012, 10:43 PM
What do you think of this one, HC? I've long been tempted by it because I'm fond of Mijanovic.

The overall tempi was erratic in many parts. It might take some getting use to. Mijanovic did not sound that Italian as far as the accent was concerned, and her ornamentation not that convincing (overly flowery) but a very capable voice. It still preferred Jennifer Lamore's "strong masculine" voice from a lady! As you love this opera, I can recommend it but in no hurry, say when it is on sale.

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
October 7th, 2012, 10:45 PM
Are there that many recordings of Norma?

Norma has 127 recordings.

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
October 7th, 2012, 10:52 PM
I don't tend to have multiple versions. My collection is bigger in breadth (more than 400 operas) than depth (many of the same). The winners for me are two operas that are tied for first place, La Traviata and Carmen, both with 7.

Aksel
October 7th, 2012, 11:04 PM
Don Giovanni. 6 audio and 20 video. And I'm seriously considering getting the new one out with Arcangelo and co.

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THIS is the perfect example of why Riccardo Muti should never under any circumstances do Don Giovanni at La Scala.

EDIT: And I think I have about 8 or 9 Cosís.

Amfortas
October 7th, 2012, 11:06 PM
I'm not as avid a collector as you guys. The most versions I have of any opera is 5, and it's a two-way tie:

Die Walküre

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Also a DVD of the BBC Proms concert performance under Pappano with Domingo, Meier, Terfel, and Gasteen.

Don Carlo

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Soave_Fanciulla
October 7th, 2012, 11:22 PM
THIS is the perfect example of why Riccardo Muti should never under any circumstances do Don Giovanni at La Scala.



And the STAGING! How can you manage to make Don Giovanni excrutiatingly boring :disgust:?

HarpsichordConcerto
October 7th, 2012, 11:25 PM
I have quite a few Don Giovanni but probably not as many as Soave_Fanciulla. Not 20 videos of it anyway! My oh my!

StLukesGuildOhio
October 8th, 2012, 04:07 AM
I have 8 recordings of The Magic Flute:


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... and three that I am interested in getting:

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Although considering the scale of the work, it is probably my collection of Wagner's Ring that was more insane on my part:

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And I'm still drooling over this:

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and this...

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Schigolch
October 8th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Are there that many recordings of Norma?

There are quite a few, quite a few....

And then, there are also many broadcasts, in-house recordings and the like, that I also have available.

HarpsichordConcerto
October 8th, 2012, 09:03 AM
There are quite a few, quite a few....

And then, there are also many broadcasts, in-house recordings and the like, that I also have available.

OK, you must pick three versions, the top three, that you recommend. Preferably these are readily available. I think Norma is a fine opera but I didn't realise it would warrant that many versions!

Schigolch
October 8th, 2012, 09:28 AM
Norma is my favorite opera... though of course there are many others I like a lot:

Dark_Angel
October 8th, 2012, 12:22 PM
I have 8 recordings of The Magic Flute:

Although considering the scale of the work, it is probably my collection of Wagner's Ring that was more insane on my part:


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And I'm still drooling over this:

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and this...

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SLG you must add the Bohm Ring since it now comes in budget price boxset.....

I mentioned at "other thread" that 1952 Keilberth Ring recently released in budget priced individual sets, sound is very good (better than 1953 Krauss)

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Dark_Angel
October 8th, 2012, 12:29 PM
Current most versions title belongs to Tosca.....11 CD sets and 9 video versions
(soon to be 10 videos since I have pre-ordered Gheorghiu / Kaufmann ROH)

Most versions of opera by same singer goes to Callas / Norma

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The 1955 season live series with Del Monaco are probably the peak, best to get Divina label version with best possible sound and huge media file of bonus material

http://www.divinarecords.com/dvn017/dvn017.html

Couchie
October 8th, 2012, 04:53 PM
I have 12 T&Is.

HarpsichordConcerto
October 9th, 2012, 08:13 PM
Any thoughts on this Norma?

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Schigolch
October 9th, 2012, 09:18 PM
I think Ms. Papian could be a good Norma.... Desmond.

Aramis
October 12th, 2012, 07:59 PM
http://www.promusicacamerata.pl/en/images/cd/PMC062.jpg

He, so you made use of the e-shop link I hinted you some time ago or did you get that one before elsewhere?

My top-represented operas could be Rigoletto, Cosi fan Tutte and Barbiere (but that's only if we count 874985 non-released broadcast rips with Flórez). But that doesn't mean these are my absolute top favourites, somehow I don't always feel urge to collect vast amounts of recordings when I love some opera. I have only handful of Normas, for example, because I often prefer to stick to the best performers and listen less frequently than explore tons of diffrent interpretations of varying quality.

HarpsichordConcerto
October 12th, 2012, 10:08 PM
He, so you made use of the e-shop link I hinted you some time ago or did you get that one before elsewhere?

My top-represented operas could be Rigoletto, Cosi fan Tutte and Barbiere (but that's only if we count 874985 non-released broadcast rips with Flórez). But that doesn't mean these are my absolute top favourites, somehow I don't always feel urge to collect vast amounts of recordings when I love some opera. I have only handful of Normas, for example, because I often prefer to stick to the best performers and listen less frequently than explore tons of diffrent interpretations of varying quality.

I bought it along with quite a few other CDs from the site you suggested. My first purchase of music from Poland! I corresponded by email with them. They were polite, articulated in fine English and promptly sent all the CDs to me, which they said was the first ever shipment of music to Australia from their business. Interesting experience. See post #322 http://operalively.com/forums/showthread.php/267-What-have-you-purchased-recently/page22

And thank you for the link.

StLukesGuildOhio
October 13th, 2012, 02:18 AM
SLG you must add the Bohm Ring since it now comes in budget price boxset.....

I mentioned at "other thread" that 1952 Keilberth Ring recently released in budget priced individual sets, sound is very good (better than 1953 Krauss)

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It doesn't appear that Die Walkure is available as of yet.

StLukesGuildOhio
October 13th, 2012, 02:20 AM
12 Tristan und Isoldes? I must get cracking!:sour:

Nico1616
October 13th, 2012, 05:47 PM
10 Don Giovanni's

Dark_Angel
October 13th, 2012, 07:22 PM
It doesn't appear that Die Walkure is available as of yet.

Sad but true, not sure why but other three installments of the 1952 Keilberth Ring are really great with surprisingly good mono sound

HarpsichordConcerto
October 14th, 2012, 12:12 AM
10 Don Giovanni's

I don't know which Mozart opera I have the most number of versions. But doing a stock-take on my Don Giovanni, I have these.

Edit: I have more Don Giovanni than I do Giulio Cesare in Egitto!

1057

1061

1059

1062

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1056

1058

1064

1060

HarpsichordConcerto
October 14th, 2012, 12:15 AM
I frankly do not know the correct answer in my collection but I have confidence it is Handel's Giulio Cesare in Egitto. :adoration: I will have 9 versions in all: 7 that I currently have (picture below) plus 2 others that I know I shall buy. Surprise, surprise.


I was wrong! I have more Don Giovanni than Cesare by one!

Soave_Fanciulla
October 14th, 2012, 01:39 AM
I was wrong! I have more Don Giovanni than Cesare by one!

You need a catalogue, HC (of recordings I mean, not a catalogo al' Leporello).

HarpsichordConcerto
October 14th, 2012, 01:52 AM
You need a catalogue, HC (of recordings I mean, not a catalogo al' Leporello).

I agree. But I would be overwhelmed by the amount of work I need to do to manually compile one on a spreadsheet. It would take me too long. :scared2:

Nico1616
October 14th, 2012, 07:41 AM
My Don Giovanni's:
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My favorites are: Giulini/EMI (my first and still the best), Busch/EMI and Krips/Decca.

My 11th was the Harnoncourt/Teldec but I gave it away. The conducting was too brutal to me.

Nico1616
October 14th, 2012, 10:15 AM
I don't know which Mozart opera I have the most number of versions. But doing a stock-take on my Don Giovanni, I have these.

Edit: I have more Don Giovanni than I do Giulio Cesare in Egitto!



I am quite surprised that we have 10 Don Giovanni's each, and only 1 overlap: the Jacobs.
If I would pick one from your list, it would be the Gardiner. And I could never be without Giulini's.
Maybe 10 Don Giovanni's is still not enough :)

Ann Lander (sospiro)
October 14th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Maybe 10 Don Giovanni's is still not enough :)

When you love something so much, numbers don't matter.

Schigolch
October 15th, 2012, 01:55 PM
Well, I checked a little bit my collection counting every format and... what a surprise for me!. I would have sworn that my second opera in terms of different number of versions after Norma would be Traviata or Bohème or Carmen,... but no, it's Tristan und Isolde.

MAuer
October 15th, 2012, 05:45 PM
Well, I checked a little bit my collection counting every format and... what a surprise for me!. I would have sworn that my second opera in terms of different number of versions after Norma would be Traviata or Bohème or Carmen,... but no, it's Tristan und Isolde.

Our Wagnerians will approve. :)

HarpsichordConcerto
October 15th, 2012, 08:01 PM
When you love something so much, numbers don't matter.

Indeed. Love is not dissectible. Love is just love ...

Schigolch
November 17th, 2012, 12:09 PM
The list of the 25 operas with more recordings, ordered by number of recordings:

1 Boheme
2 Aida
3 Traviata
4 Tosca
5 Otello
6 Carmen
7 Trovatore
8 Don Giovanni
9 Rigoletto
10 Lucia
11 Walkure
12 Don Carlo
13 Ballo
14 Nozze
15 Tristan
16 Pagliacci
17 Butterfly
18 Barbiere
19 Fidelio
20 Magic Flute
21 Norma
22 Macbeth
23 Faust
24 Cavalleria
25 Turandot

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
November 17th, 2012, 12:55 PM
The list of the 25 operas with more recordings, ordered by number of recordings:

1 Boheme
2 Aida
3 Traviata
4 Tosca
5 Otello
6 Carmen
7 Trovatore
8 Don Giovanni
9 Rigoletto
10 Lucia
11 Walkure
12 Don Carlo
13 Ballo
14 Nozze
15 Tristan
16 Pagliacci
17 Butterfly
18 Barbiere
19 Fidelio
20 Magic Flute
21 Norma
22 Macbeth
23 Faust
24 Cavalleria
25 Turandot

Wow, I'm surprised with Don Carlo (and Ballo too, for that matter, although if a bit less) being ahead of Nozze, Barbiere, Magic Flute...
Even though I think Don Carlo is one of the very best operas by Verdi, up there with Traviata and Otello in terms of sophisticated musical structure, quality of the plot, impressive scenes, etc., it certainly isn't one of the most popular operas for the public at large, and it is certainly several notches below Nozze, Barbiere, and the Magic Flute in terms of popularity, so, it is surprising that conductors and orchestras make a point of recording it more often than these blockbusters.

Dark_Angel
November 17th, 2012, 01:06 PM
I was wrong! I have more Don Giovanni than Cesare by one!

Until you press the buy button on this.................

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Florestan
March 8th, 2018, 04:56 AM
All commercial releases:

Fidelio (not counting Leonore sets): 32 sets (24 CD and 8 DVD).

Barber of Seville: 28 sets (16 on CD and 12 on DVD).

Maria Stuarda: 19 sets (11 on CD and 8 on DVD).

Flying Dutchman: 18 sets (14 CD and 4 DVD).

La Fanciulla del West: 13 sets (4 CD and 9 DVD).

La Sonnambula: 12 sets (9 CD and 3 DVD).

Wagner Ring (complete): 11 sets (9 CD and 2 DVD).

Meistersinger: 11 sets (5 CD and 6 DVD).

Lohengrin: 10 sets (5 CD and 5 DVD).

Anna Bolena: 9 sets (7 CD and 2 DVD).

And for sure I would have L'amico Fritz and Flotow's Martha in this list if only there were some more recordings to purchase! :(

Florestan
April 8th, 2018, 03:32 AM
Update: I now have 17 Flying Dutchman CD sets, surpassed only by my Fidelio CD collection!

Florestan
June 14th, 2018, 04:34 PM
Update: I now have 17 Flying Dutchman CD sets, surpassed only by my Fidelio CD collection!

Another update: I will soon have (when the last two arrive in the mail) 17 La Sonnambula CD sets! :)

I may have to buy that Moffo Sonnambula just to get this one into second place! :)


EDIT: Make that 18 Sonnambula sets. Just bought the Moffo set. Now Sonnambula is in second place. There is at least one more that is on my radar.

Florestan
March 14th, 2019, 05:04 AM
Update: I now have 31 La Sonnambula recordings (25 on CD and 6 on DVD). My favorite opera.