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Dichteurehalle
January 25th, 2017, 04:52 AM
Hi everybody,

I initially stumbled across this site via the interviews, and stayed after a quick browse through the "What are you listening/watching/buying" threads. You all have such wide-ranging tastes!

I myself have been binging on Don Carlo all day, every day since August (recordings from favorite to least: Solti, Giulini, 1996 Paris DVD, Abbado, Hold-Garrido, Santini, Karajan). Before Don Carlo, I was listening to La Wally, Les Martyrs, Don Giovanni, Manon, and L'etoile, but overall, my top 3 are Die Meistersinger, Tannhauser, and Lohengrin.

Parsifal also holds a special place in my heart, since it's the first opera I listened to and the first opera I attended. Growing up, we listened to a lot of classical and some lieder, but it wasn't until 2013 when (for some reason) I decided to listen to the prelude to Parsifal. It turned out to be a very enjoyable 14 minutes, so I did it again, etc. And later that year, the ROH put it on (Simon O'Neill, Angela Denoke, Gerald Finley, Rene Pape), so I went and saw it, and everything else sort of followed from there!

I primarily go to the Met, and have seen everything so far this season except Magic Flute, and the second act of L'Italiana (was in a bit of a mood that day and didn't like the Isabella or the end to Act 1, so grumpily went home and watched Marilyn Horne on YouTube lol). I've also got a small library of 40-something DVDs, though it's really only a matter of time before I order the Kusej Rusalka and the Glyndebourne Giulio Cesare. Looking forward to discussing opera with you all, and to being enabled for many future acquisitions!

Soave_Fanciulla
January 25th, 2017, 05:03 AM
Welcome to the Forum and look forward to many chats. Don Carlos is my favourite Verdi although I can't say I'm as devoted as you! I also love your other choices (possibly Tannhäuser and Parsifal less).

Ann Lander (sospiro)
January 25th, 2017, 07:21 AM
Welcome to the forum.

I'm a big fan of Don Carlo too and was lucky enough to see the Hytner at ROH in 2013 with Kaufmann, Harteros (she only did one performance, cancelled the rest), Kwiecień and Furlanetto.

I look forward to hearing about your other opera trips.

Soave_Fanciulla
January 25th, 2017, 08:16 AM
I'm a big fan of Don Carlo too and was lucky enough to see the Hytner at ROH in 2013 with Kaufmann, Harteros (she only did one performance, cancelled the rest), Kwiecień and Furlanetto.

My favourite Don Carlo was Luis Lima at ROH in the 80s. That man broke my heart; Ileana Cotrubas as Elisabetta not far behind. It was preserved on VHS:

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Ann Lander (sospiro)
January 25th, 2017, 09:16 AM
My favourite Don Carlo was Luis Lima at ROH in the 80s. That man broke my heart; Ileana Cotrubas as Elisabetta not far behind. It was preserved on VHS:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51DF082639L.jpg

You saw that? I wish I'd discovered opera earlier. :(

Dichteurehalle
January 25th, 2017, 10:39 PM
Welcome to the forum.

I'm a big fan of Don Carlo too and was lucky enough to see the Hytner at ROH in 2013 with Kaufmann, Harteros (she only did one performance, cancelled the rest), Kwiecień and Furlanetto.

I look forward to hearing about your other opera trips.

I was actually living in London at the time, so no trip required, though it also means I managed to miss the Met Parsifal of the same year. The Met Futures Wiki says they're putting it on next season, so hopefully that happens and hopefully nobody cancels!

Though I did go to Zurich over Thanksgiving to see Don Carlo with Vargas, Harteros, Pape, Mattei, and Prudenskaya (though in a reverse of your situation, Harteros cancelled my performance but did the rest). Ah well...

Hoffmann
January 26th, 2017, 12:24 AM
Welcome to OL, Dichteurehalle! Our tastes seem very similar: Tannhäuser, Lohengrin, Don Carlo, Norma, traveling for opera. Oh, wait. Norma isn't on your list... Yet.

Opera Lively is a knowlegeable and great community - I look forward to visiting with you often!

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
January 26th, 2017, 12:55 AM
Hi everybody,

I initially stumbled across this site via the interviews, and stayed after a quick browse through the "What are you listening/watching/buying" threads. You all have such wide-ranging tastes!

....

I primarily go to the Met, and have seen everything so far this season except Magic Flute, and the second act of L'Italiana (was in a bit of a mood that day and didn't like the Isabella or the end to Act 1, so grumpily went home

Welcome to Opera Lively; it seems like it will be a pleasure to have you here! We look forward to discussing opera with you. I also didn't like that Isabella in L'Italiana and had to be brave to stay until the end.

Dichteurehalle
January 26th, 2017, 02:37 AM
Oh, wait. Norma isn't on your list... Yet.

Hah! I feel like one thing holding me back with Norma is that I haven't watched it yet, and Met On Demand only has audio for it. Is there a DVD you particularly recommend?

Dichteurehalle
January 26th, 2017, 02:48 AM
Welcome to Opera Lively; it seems like it will be a pleasure to have you here! We look forward to discussing opera with you. I also didn't like that Isabella in L'Italiana and had to be brave to stay until the end.

I'd be curious to hear what you didn't like about her! I vaguely remember finding her recitatives particularly unmusical and thought she was a little "flabby" with the rhythms. Though what do I know, Marianna Pizzolato seems to sing only Rossini, in quite a number of places. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hoffmann
January 26th, 2017, 02:11 PM
Hah! I feel like one thing holding me back with Norma is that I haven't watched it yet, and Met On Demand only has audio for it. Is there a DVD you particularly recommend?


That's an interesting question. I'm about the only one here who doesn't watch opera DVDs - I really only listen to CDs, a habit pre-dating the days of omni-present DVDs, I guess.

As far as listening and CDs, Callas really owns the role:

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Sutherland also is famous for the role. I also like this one, because Marilyn Horne sings Adalgisa (and, who doesn't love Marilyn Horne?):


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So, for DVDs, I looked back at OL's Top Lists Forum and went to the thread on "Favorite CDs and DVDs for our Top 100 Operas", where Norma is #8 (Note: It's my fault that the list stops at #66 - I kind of got overtaken by events, as we sometimes say here in DC - and need to get back on finishing the list...)

Anyway, here are the DVD favorites for Norma:


DVD:
Arthaus Music: Grand Teatre del Liceu, Barcelona (2007)
Fiorenza Cedolins/Sonia Ganassi/Vincenzo La Scola/Begona Alberdi, et al., Cond. Giuliano Carella 2 votes

VAI: Theatre Antique d'Orange (1974)
Montserrat Caballé/Jon Vickers/Josephine Veasey, et al., Cond. Giuseppe Patané 2 votes

Tdk: Teatro Regio of Parma
Shin Young Hoon/Ildar Abdrazakov/June Anderson/Daniela Barcellona, et al., Cond. Fabio Biondi 1 vote

Here is the OL voting/discussion on Norma from when we were compiling favorites:

http://operalively.com/forums/showthread.php/2094-What-are-your-favorite-recordings-of-the-OL-top-100-operas/page11?p=39455&viewfull=1#post39455

Let me know how it goes!

Amfortas
January 27th, 2017, 07:57 AM
Glad to have you with us, Dich. Only fans of Wagner and Don Carlo are welcome here, so I guess we'll let you stay. ;)

Dichteurehalle
January 27th, 2017, 11:36 PM
Let me know how it goes!

Wow, thank you so much! Will do :)

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
January 28th, 2017, 02:37 AM
I'd be curious to hear what you didn't like about her! I vaguely remember finding her recitatives particularly unmusical and thought she was a little "flabby" with the rhythms. Though what do I know, Marianna Pizzolato seems to sing only Rossini, in quite a number of places. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Here is what I said in my review:

Mariana Pizzolato had all the right notes and the pretty bel canto singing. The big problem is that she had no chemistry with anybody, seemed to phone in the performance, and her acting was, well, nonexistent, which was the main downside of this show. She definitely did not convey the witty and funny Isabella. Just good singing doesn't a great performance make.

Full review here:
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