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jflatter
December 19th, 2011, 11:17 PM
Is there a good Der Freischütz on DVD?

I am thinking of going to see a concert version conducted by Colin Davis with the LSO in the spring. However I have never this opera and know that there was one recommendation on another site for a Haroncourt DVD but it has bad reviews elsewhere. Do you guys think it is the best version around. I should add that I have the Kleiber recording.

Aramis
December 19th, 2011, 11:36 PM
If you have only the Kleiber CD, at your place I wouldn't bother with DVDs which raraly happen to be any good in case of less popular operas* and get another CD recording by Kubelik with Rene Kollo.

* Freischutz is well known and regarded opera but when you look at discography you don't get impression like most estemed singers would rush to record it too much.

HarpsichordConcerto
December 20th, 2011, 02:09 AM
The following is the DVD version of Der Freischutz I have, under the baton of Nicholas Harnoncourt. While I don't have other versions, the performance is fine but I think the staging is on the avant-garde side, at times a touch silly. So it depends what you are looking for. I didn't mind the staging becaue I was more in for it because Harnoncourt was taking care of the music.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51bXVD8bE6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

GualtierMalde
December 20th, 2011, 03:30 AM
I've been asking myself the same question ("Is there a good ...") for years now, with depressing results for the traditionally minded opera lover. There is a relatively recent opera film, called "Hunter's bride" in English, and apparently it's available on DVD on the European market now. I don't know if there are plans to release this in the US any time soon.

Generally speaking, I prefer staged opera to film (even on DVD/blu-ray), but given the current dismal situation, this could provide some much needed relief.

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
December 20th, 2011, 04:24 AM
I am thinking of going to see a concert version conducted by Colin Davis with the LSO in the spring. However I have never this opera and know that there was one recommendation on another site for a Haroncourt DVD but it has bad reviews elsewhere. Do you guys think it is the best version around. I should add that I have the Kleiber recording.

The only one I own and know can not be said to be that good.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51N80H87JRL._AA160_.jpg

Soave_Fanciulla
December 20th, 2011, 08:14 AM
I've been asking myself the same question ("Is there a good ...") for years now, with depressing results for the traditionally minded opera lover. There is a relatively recent opera film, called "Hunter's bride" in English, and apparently it's available on DVD on the European market now. I don't know if there are plans to release this in the US any time soon.


Just bought it. I've been waiting for this to come out as the Harnoncourt DVD that I have watched is so dismal. Thanks, Gualtier!

jflatter
December 20th, 2011, 08:31 PM
I like both traditional and modern productions but I just hear that the Haroncourt DVD is just messy.

PS thanks to the mods for correcting my sloppy spelling mistakes.:o

GualtierMalde
December 22nd, 2011, 05:17 AM
Just bought it. I've been waiting for this to come out as the Harnoncourt DVD that I have watched is so dismal. Thanks, Gualtier!

Will you please post a brief review when you have watched it, just so we know what we are missing out on. Or maybe it will in fact be released in the US at some point.

Soave_Fanciulla
December 22nd, 2011, 08:28 AM
Will you please post a brief review when you have watched it, just so we know what we are missing out on. Or maybe it will in fact be released in the US at some point.

Sure. Are you not ordering from the UK because it's region 2? It's definitely worth getting an all region DVD player - things are often released in the UK first.

Here are some pics from the film:

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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/310ee5AE5uL.jpg

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GualtierMalde
December 23rd, 2011, 03:03 AM
It's definitely worth getting an all region DVD player - things are often released in the UK first.


Good advice I think, but I would have needed that a year ago ... :)

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
January 2nd, 2012, 02:23 AM
Weber: Euryanthe on DVD
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41kPrWELo3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

No competition. As far as I know this is the only version on DVD. Singing is adequate, not spectacular. Staging is traditional, no fireworks, but not bad either. The ballets are good, unlike in other productions. Being this production not the real attraction, I'll be talking more about the opera itself.

A+ for the music. The libretto is a mess but is not able to drag down such exquisite and melodious orchestration.

This is good competition for the title of most melodious opera writing which in most people's mind might belongs to Donizetti.

Apparently Weber had been criticized for Der Freischütz by those who thought it was more Singspiel than opera, with too many recitatifs and not enough beautiful singing. Well, then Weber set out to shut his critics up by composing Euryanthe, and one must say that it is an astounding success.

The original libretto was said to be extremely weak and had to be re-written 9 times! It is still weak...

However and in spite of it, this opera is musically close to perfection. First, the very beautiful and haunting overture correctly sets the tragic tone. Then it opens with a chorus and the conventional exchanges in a high royal court, but very rapidly moves into a passionate tenor aria in which Adolar sings of his love for his wife Euryanthe. One immediately gets the romantic and dramatic impact of his feelings, just to be thrown into his rival Lysiart's hateful aria hinting that she is unfaithful. Oh boy, we are minutes into the action and everything is in full speed! The tension mounts at lightning speed when the two rivals almost come to an engagement with their swords drawn, but set for a bet. We are thrown into the duet between the two female leads, Euryanthe and Eglantine. There is a very interesting equilibrium between these two scenes between the two male and the two female voices - while the men interact violently, the women interact delicately and with subtle intrigue. Besides, this opera contains some of the most fine music for soprano duets, making one think of what would happen years later with Richard Strauss.

The orchestration is entirely written through, with an unbroken flow of music of the best quality. The voice of the orchestra provides a non-stopping commentary that is always appropriate and expressive, in multiple layers. It flows from solemn to dramatic to ominous to suspenseful with admirable ease. For example, the orchestration acquires a pounding effect in the scene in which Euryanthe is being accused and the ring is being produced as proof of her (made up) unfaithfulness. It's like the harsh words she is being thrown at are hammered in over and over - and then it all becomes piano piano with the shocked and whispering chorus lamenting what they're seeing. This moves with no time left for the pathos to fall down, into a halting, pungent trio in which the two spouses lament their sort while Lysiart continues to be hateful. As the tragedy of the moment downs on the protagonists, the orchestra acquires funebre march-like qualities and reduces the sound volume so that the trio of singers increase their despair/triumph more and more. What a beautiful effect!!!

Choral pieces are used to excellent effect, without being overwhelming or too intrusive. Ballets are short and artsy.

The opera never loses pace. It progress inexorably, with very varied scenes - for example, we get the Hunting Chorus that provides a nice folk-like break, as well as melodic bursts like the May Song.

This is a formidable example of how to set to outstanding music a mediocre libretto.

Bravo, Weber!

A+ for the music, C for the libretto, but who cares for the libretto when the music is so exquisite? I'll be listening to this one on CD without the words, over and over.

Aramis
January 2nd, 2012, 11:31 AM
Weber: Euryanthe on DVD[INDENT]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41kPrWELo3L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I OBJECT AGAINST PLACING IT HERE

Weber must have his own thread.

Don't resist... you know... it's in vain...

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
January 2nd, 2012, 03:23 PM
OK, I have moved these posts to a Weber-only thread.

Sacramento Johnson
May 2nd, 2012, 05:22 AM
Greetings!
I have this DVD of Freischutz. I have to add I found it rather boring. I picked it up to see what a traditional production looked like, and also I was interested in hearing/seeing Ernst Kozub; I was underwhelmed on both accounts. (Somehow I recall being told he was Solti's "would be Siegfried", who didn't pan out and was replaced by Windgassen for the London Decca recording in the '60s.)

http://www.amazon.com/Weber-Der-Freischutz-Gottlob-Frick/dp/B000L42J4K/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1335935508&sr=1-1

myaskovsky2002
May 9th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Sure. Are you not ordering from the UK because it's region 2? It's definitely worth getting an all region DVD player - things are often released in the UK first.

Here are some pics from the film:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41knj9cHRCL.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/310ee5AE5uL.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pH4MT5WpL.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51OJj1P4tPL.jpg

This seems completely awesome...is kind of pride and prejudice stage. Please post the reference in order to see it or tu buy it. Thanks

myaskovsky2002
May 9th, 2012, 07:57 PM
My version has awesome critics:

I bought it and loved it, a bit old fashion, theatre version, but voices are great.

520

Martin

myaskovsky2002
May 9th, 2012, 07:59 PM
I have an all region DVD player that I got for almost nothing, the brand is "inconuta"...LOL Better than Sony or Panasonic...too picky.

Martin

Soave_Fanciulla
May 9th, 2012, 09:18 PM
This seems completely awesome...is kind of pride and prejudice stage. Please post the reference in order to see it or tu buy it. Thanks

It's beautiful (apart from the ludicrous Wolf's Glen scene which has special effects that a 70s B-grade movie would be ashamed of), but it's severely cut and comes without any subtitles. And Max the hunter is so physically unpleasant you really can't see what Agathe sees in him. The best thing about it is Rene Pape.

Anyway, if you must have it you can buy it from Amazon Germany:

http://www.amazon.de/Der-Freisch%C3%BCtz-Franz-Grundheber/dp/B004HYGHMU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1336598231&sr=8-3

Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)
May 10th, 2012, 01:12 AM
My version has awesome critics:

I bought it and loved it, a bit old fashion, theatre version, but voices are great.

520

Martin

I've just received this one in the mail today, as part of my Cult Opera of the 1970s boxset. Haven't watched it yet.

Florestan
March 7th, 2018, 10:41 PM
My version has awesome critics:

I bought it and loved it, a bit old fashion, theatre version, but voices are great.

520

Martin

Yes, that is the only one I have and I think it is a wonderful production. I give it a rating of 10 out of 10.

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I've just received this one in the mail today, as part of my Cult Opera of the 1970s boxset. Haven't watched it yet.

That should be a great box set if it is all this series of operas. It includes (as I have them) Fidelio, Zar und Zimmerman, Meistersinger, among others.