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    The dangers of singing Wagner in the shower

    This morning in the shower I was singing the Dutchman's Die frist ist um or a garbled version of it anyways and at the big note got really light headed and then blacked out completely.

    I awoke in a crumpled heap shortly after (presumably I was only out a matter of seconds) and my wrists hurt and not my head, so I guess I broke my fall pretty well.

    I guess the takeaway is that it is better to risk disappointing your imaginary audience and drop the note early rather than sustain it for as long as you can and forget to breathe in a hot shower.
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchie View Post
    I guess the takeaway is that it is better to risk disappointing your imaginary audience and drop the note early rather than sustain it for as long as you can and forget to breathe in a hot shower.
    And here I thought you were willing to suffer for your art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    And here I thought you were willing to suffer for your art.
    No... as you have heard my singing I though it is apparent that it is art that suffers me.

    And also my neighbors... hehe
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Maybe the spirit of Wagner knocked you out from behind because you blew that note too bladly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne of Green Gables View Post
    Maybe the spirit of Wagner knocked you out from behind because you blew that note too bladly.
    From behind me as I shower? That would make the spirit of Wagner rather a pervert.

    Besides, the spirit of Wagner lives within me.
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchie View Post
    From behind me as I shower? That would make the spirit of Wagner rather a pervert.

    Besides, the spirit of Wagner lives within me.
    How is that less perverted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    Who is the Grail?
    The spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, nor knoweth him: but you shall know him; because he shall abide with you, and shall be in you. - John 14:17
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Anyway, if the thread is about passing out because of breath problems while sustaining musical line, why does the title say "dangers of singing Wagner"? You're more likely to experience this when singing something like "Il mio tesoro" or prayer scene from Maria Stuarda.

    This gives me idea... what if Flórez's wife will decide to get rid of him and take over his riches, she will say "let's go and take hot shower together and you will sing me O fiamma soave ... ".

    HAVE I JUST CONCEIVED PERFECT CRIME?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne of Green Gables View Post
    Anyway, if the thread is about passing out because of breath problems while sustaining musical line, why does the title say "dangers of singing Wagner"?
    Because I was singing Wagner.

    I suppose I could ask why limit ourselves to breath problems in opera singing and not any kind of singing? And actually, why just singing but not also other activities involving possible breath problems, ie. marathon running? And why just breath problems, but not the host of other problems capable of afflicting us humans? How far do you want to take this? I'm sure we could eventually end up discussing the dangers of everything from uneven sidewalks to pouring tea until we land on whether or not it is worth taking the risk to even exist.

    Not I, sir. Perhaps you, but not I.
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchie View Post
    This morning in the shower I was singing the Dutchman's Die frist ist um or a garbled version of it anyways and at the big note got really light headed and then blacked out completely.

    I awoke in a crumpled heap shortly after (presumably I was only out a matter of seconds) and my wrists hurt and not my head, so I guess I broke my fall pretty well.

    I guess the takeaway is that it is better to risk disappointing your imaginary audience and drop the note early rather than sustain it for as long as you can and forget to breathe in a hot shower.
    Maybe you're not a true bass. Try working your way up to Die Frist ist Um, maybe by gaining experience with In Fernem Land first. Or, it could be that you are too young and straining yourself and your voice before you are ready for the Dutchman - as you can see, you could hurt yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
    Maybe you're not a true bass. Try working your way up to Die Frist ist Um, maybe by gaining experience with In Fernem Land first. Or, it could be that you are too young and straining yourself and your voice before you are ready for the Dutchman - as you can see, you could hurt yourself!
    Couchie has no choice. He is condemned to sing Die Frist ist Um in the shower forever, until he finds a woman who will be true to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchie View Post
    Because I was singing Wagner.

    I suppose I could ask why limit ourselves to breath problems in opera singing and not any kind of singing? And actually, why just singing but not also other activities involving possible breath problems, ie. marathon running? And why just breath problems, but not the host of other problems capable of afflicting us humans? How far do you want to take this? I'm sure we could eventually end up discussing the dangers of everything from uneven sidewalks to pouring tea until we land on whether or not it is worth taking the risk to even exist.

    Not I, sir. Perhaps you, but not I.
    Singing is dangerous. This explains why I don't sing. Now when you folks complain that I am chanting in a monotone in the singing context thread, I'll have you know because it is to preserve my health. Due to my motorcycle accident, I've run through at least 6 of my lives and have only 2 left to spare which I certainly wouldn't want to foolishly put at risk from partaking in any wanton singing!
    “The hand of Providence creeps among the stars, giving Slothrop the finger.”
    ― Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow

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