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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGerald View Post
    See the ROH production DVD; talk about chilling!
    did you see the live production with pav and ramey as filippo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orestis23 View Post
    I'm not sure I've heard a better ending than Don Carlo...WOW! I get shivers every time I hear it...The studio recording with Milnes, Domingo, Raimondi, Estes, etc...is out of this world!

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    Maybe I will give this another listen. I have come to prefer the Solti with Bergonzi, Tebaldi, Ghiaurov and Fisher-Dieskau over all the others, but to the point I never listen to them. Btw, Ghiaurov rules!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoffmann View Post
    Maybe I will give this another listen. I have come to prefer the Solti with Bergonzi, Tebaldi, Ghiaurov and Fisher-Dieskau over all the others, but to the point I never listen to them. Btw, Ghiaurov rules!
    Trust me on this one, brother: see the DVD with Furlanetto. Currently, I think he owns the part, and this performance shows why, both vocally and dramatically. Plus buying DVDs is good for the local economy; it's actually patriotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orestis23 View Post
    I'm not sure I've heard a better ending than Don Carlo...WOW! I get shivers every time I hear it...
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGerald View Post
    See the ROH production DVD; talk about chilling!
    I have to say, as much as I love Don Carlo, I've always found the ending problematic. The voice of Carlo's supposedly long-dead grandfather leads either to the former's unconvincing mystical ascension or the latter's all-too-real, obtrusive, and unexplained eleventh-hour appearance.

    I prefer productions where Carlo is either killed or kills himself, and the admonishing voice remains offstage as an unexplained spectral presence. That way, the real focus lies where it should, on the figure in the middle--King Filippo, left to face what a tragic failure of a father he has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amfortas View Post
    I have to say, as much as I love Don Carlo, I've always found the ending problematic. The voice of Carlo's supposedly long-dead grandfather leads either to the former's unconvincing mystical ascension or the latter's all-too-real, obtrusive, and unexplained eleventh-hour appearance.

    I prefer productions where Carlo is either killed or kills himself, and the admonishing voice remains offstage as an unexplained spectral presence. That way, the real focus lies where it should, on the figure in the middle--King Filippo, left to face what a tragic failure of a father he has been.
    One of my favourite Verdi endings for sheer soap opera value has to be Il Trovatore. Il Trovatore could quite easily become a soap opera story-line (has it been done? It should be!) in its entirety. If its music wasn't so beautiful I wonder if it would be as popular as it remains overall for Verdi.

    Azucena :He was Your brother

    Count: He! What horror!

    Azucena: Mother, you are avenged!

    Count: And I still live!

    Opera finishes its music cue East Enders theme song
    "Non sono in vena" Rodolfo summing up P.B's feelings on his dissertation.

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    Throwing the your own baby in the fire by mistake is too crazy even for soap operas.

    Giving birth in jeans, though, can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Festat View Post
    Throwing the your own baby in the fire by mistake is too crazy even for soap operas.
    Does that mean we win? Opera wins on craziness! Yay!
    "Non sono in vena" Rodolfo summing up P.B's feelings on his dissertation.

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    I love Il trovatore's ending, it's so Dramatic. But really a lot depends on the staging/acting, because if the mezzo adds a supervillain laugh, it will become funny very fast. The most ridiculous staging I have seen was one where they had a bit fire pit on stage and then yeeted the tenor into it. I just about died. Also: honourable mention to the one where the Count thinks he's Hagen and stabs Manrico with a spear. Just... shoot him or stab him or whatever. Don't get too creative.


    Götterdämmerung is also epic as hell.


    Lucia can be good unless Edgardo forgets to bleed and overacts.


    Ballo's ending is beautiful, but why does pretty much every Renato just stand there looking bored instead or having a breakdown?


    Queen of Spades can be very good - if the tenor can act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainVere View Post
    ...Götterdämmerung is also epic as hell...
    Yes, that's how I would put it too!

    Especially so if Brünnhilde rides a real horse bareback onto the funeral pyre, as Wagner intended, against the direction of the stage director!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainVere View Post
    I love Il trovatore's ending, it's so Dramatic. But really a lot depends on the staging/acting, because if the mezzo adds a supervillain laugh, it will become funny very fast. The most ridiculous staging I have seen was one where they had a bit fire pit on stage and then yeeted the tenor into it. I just about died.



    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainVere View Post
    Lucia can be good unless Edgardo forgets to bleed and overacts.
    Lucia's demise is good on here.

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    Wow, that looked dangerous.

    Honorable mention to the Zambello staging of Billy Budd with on-stage hanging...

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