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    Fellow Verdi-ans: Rank all of his operas! (and the Requiem)

    All are welcome to comment, no matter how few Verdi operas you have heard, though I'm especially interested in hearing from those who have heard all of his operas. I'm personally going to rank all of his operas but no "revised versions" I'm going with the standard versions of what I've heard. I also have only heard Aroldo and Jerusalem once, favorably, but not enough to really differentiate from Lombardi and Stifellio, so I'll rank those alongside their counterparts. Can't do mine til later, but hoping this if a fun exercise. you can list your reasonings for your rankings and/or favorite recordings but don't have to

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    Great idea!

    Simon Boccanegra - sorry but has to be revised version
    Macbeth
    Don Carlo (Italian 5 act)
    Un giorno di Regno
    Nabucco
    Il trovatore
    Un ballo in maschera
    La forza del destino
    Rigoletto
    Il corsaro
    Attila
    Les Vępres Siciliennes
    La battaglia di Legnano
    Luisa Miller
    Ernani
    Aďda
    Stiffelio
    Falstaff
    Oberto
    I Lombardi
    Giovanna D'Arco
    I due Foscari
    Alzira
    I masnadieri
    Aroldo
    Alzira
    Otello
    La traviata
    Requiem

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    La Traviata, Otello & Requiem at the bottom!? Are you mad?

    Have you only seen high school - excuse me, “6th form” or whatever - productions?

    Still workin’ on my late Verdi, but so far I like:


    La Traviata – Dang near perfect
    Rigoletto – Dang near perfect
    Otello – Dang near perfect
    Requiem – Dang near perfect
    Un ballo in maschera – Heckin’ good
    Macbeth – Heckin’ good
    Il trovatore – Heckin’ good with the right cast
    Aida – Heckin’ good with the right director, conductor & cast
    Nabucco – Heckin’ good with the right director, conductor, cast & chorus
    Luisa Miller – Good, but surprisingly few memorable tunes (for me (so far!))
    I due Foscari – Good bits, but mostly 3 acts of crying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemorino View Post
    La Traviata, Otello & Requiem at the bottom!? Are you mad?

    Have you only seen high school - excuse me, “6th form” or whatever - productions?
    With Trav there's not enough for my favourite voice types to sing and have never liked traditional boy meets girl operas. Never really liked Otello and much prefer Mozart Requiem. Have seen Trav and Otello at ROH so not really high school productions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemorino View Post
    Still workin’ on my late Verdi, but so far I like:


    La Traviata – Dang near perfect
    Rigoletto – Dang near perfect
    Otello – Dang near perfect
    Requiem – Dang near perfect
    Un ballo in maschera – Heckin’ good
    Macbeth – Heckin’ good
    Il trovatore – Heckin’ good with the right cast
    Aida – Heckin’ good with the right director, conductor & cast
    Nabucco – Heckin’ good with the right director, conductor, cast & chorus
    Luisa Miller – Good, but surprisingly few memorable tunes (for me (so far!))
    I due Foscari – Good bits, but mostly 3 acts of crying
    Keep going, lots more to listen to yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemorino View Post
    La Traviata, Otello & Requiem at the bottom!? Are you mad?

    Have you only seen high school - excuse me, “6th form” or whatever - productions?

    Still workin’ on my late Verdi, but so far I like:


    La Traviata – Dang near perfect
    Rigoletto – Dang near perfect
    Otello – Dang near perfect
    Requiem – Dang near perfect
    Un ballo in maschera – Heckin’ good
    Macbeth – Heckin’ good
    Il trovatore – Heckin’ good with the right cast
    Aida – Heckin’ good with the right director, conductor & cast
    Nabucco – Heckin’ good with the right director, conductor, cast & chorus
    Luisa Miller – Good, but surprisingly few memorable tunes (for me (so far!))
    I due Foscari – Good bits, but mostly 3 acts of crying
    NO DON CARLO?! (In the style of that fellow who heckled Camarena at the Puritani )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ann Lander (sospiro) View Post
    With Trav there's not enough for my favourite voice types to sing and have never liked traditional boy meets girl operas. Never really liked Otello and much prefer Mozart Requiem. Have seen Trav and Otello at ROH so not really high school productions.
    Hahaha, I know I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dichteurehalle View Post
    NO DON CARLO?! (In the style of that fellow who heckled Camarena at the Puritani )
    It's the next one! I promise! Or Simon Boccanegra. Leave me alone, I'm only 2 years old (as an opera fan)!

    I put off late Verdi on purpose due to failed early attempts at Aida and Otello. I figured that steeping myself in the early Verdi that I connected to really easily would help me work up to his later works. It's working so far! DC is next on my list and it's gonna be awesome.

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    I'll do a top dozen.

    1. Don Carlo
    2. Otello
    3. Requiem
    4. Falstaff
    5. Un ballo in maschera
    6. La Traviata
    7. La forza del destino
    8. Rigoletto
    9. Il Trovatore
    10. Simon Boccanegra
    11. Aida
    12. Luisa Miller

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    1. Jerusalem

    I have no others of Verdi's operas.
    Since that night at the Polka, I don't understand you, Sheriff.
    --Ashby, La Fanciulla del West

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    Florestan you are missing out on SO MUCH!!! Beverly Sills even sang Rigoletto and La Traviata!

    I really like the "Tiers" idea set by Howling. And when there are over two dozen works, I think sometimes the degree of difference in enjoyment in between two can be very small. In sections where I list tiers, I have ordered the operas within in relative degrees of preference. This list is accurate For now....with a few exceptions it's not unusual for my favorite Verdi opera to be the one I'm currently listening to!

    1) Don Carlos

    2) Aida, Rigoletto

    3) Simon Boccanegra, Requiem

    4) La Traviata, Il Trovatore

    4) Un Ballo In Maschera, Un giorno di regno,

    5) Falstaff, Forza Del Destino, Stiffelio

    6) Nabucco, Attila, Macbeth

    7) Otello, Giovanna D'Arco, Atilla, I Due Foscari

    8) Luisa Miller, Ernani, I Vespri Siciliani

    9) La Battaglia Di Legnano, I Lombardi

    10) I Masnadieri (though I have to mention, this one has one of my favorite overtures)

    11) Oberto, Il Corsaro, Alzira.

    I do want to share more on what elements of some of the operas really led to their rankings. But I'll have to save that for another night. Even though the ranking is fun, it also can be a little misleading.... at least ten of his operas are absolutely indispensible to me and most among my favorite in all of opera. I find listening value in each work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonata View Post
    Even though the ranking is fun, it also can be a little misleading.... at least ten of his operas are absolutely indispensable to me and most among my favorite in all of opera. I find listening value in each work
    Definitely!

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    There are still so many of his operas with which I need to become acquainted, including some "biggies" like Falstaff and Nabucco. (If only the video of the latter with Milnes and Bumbry would be released on DVD . . . ) Here are my rankings for the ones with which I'm familiar:
    Rigoletto
    Il Trovatore
    Aida
    Don Carlo(s) -- must be five-act version
    La Traviata
    Luisa Miller
    Macbeth
    I due Foscari
    Otello
    Simon Boccanegra
    Un Ballo in Maschera
    La Forza del Destino
    Giovanna d'Arco
    I Vespri Siciliani
    Attila
    Il Corsaro
    Alzira

    Hard to tell where the Requiem fits in this, since my preference for the operas can also be influenced by the plot, even though the music is the primary consideration. I certainly do find the Requiem's music to be very impressive.

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    I have all the Verdi operas on CD, gathering dust, since I view the DVD/Blu ray medium as superior to the strictly audio. I also have all of them on DVD/Blu ray. Verdi is my favorite opera composer, with the Bel Canto three coming in second. I enjoy all, with Otello and Falstaff being the least pleasant to me. Macbeth was my first opera experience and I still enjoy it when the cast and staging are appropriate to my traditional perspective. Netrebko's Trovatore is getting a lot of watching time, because of the VERY high level of vocal and dramatic excellence.

    I cannot rate them in order, since my preferences are as variable as a woman's heart.

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    I have rather lost interest in Verdi operas in the last few years due to over-exposure (I did watch and listen to the whole lot in the 2013 bicentenary year), but Don Carlos French 5 Act is still one of my favourite operas.

    I love the music of Otello but I get so irritated with both Otello and Desdemona for their respective stupid blindness that I find it hard to watch.

    I have overwatched Traviata and Rigoletto.
    Natalie

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    Verdi and Puccini are like the Jack London's of opera. Very visceral stuff. Definitely great for dramatic opera. I can handle it in reading London, but I prefer nicer stories for the most part in opera. For example, that is why with Mascagni I love L'Amico Fritz but won't go near Cavalleria Rusticana. Yep, I do have a few tragic operas, though, and Tosca being one of them, is pretty much a Jack-London-type story.
    Since that night at the Polka, I don't understand you, Sheriff.
    --Ashby, La Fanciulla del West

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    I have rather lost interest in Verdi operas in the last few years due to over-exposure (I did watch and listen to the whole lot in the 2013 bicentenary year), but Don Carlos French 5 Act is still one of my favourite operas.

    I love the music of Otello but I get so irritated with both Otello and Desdemona for their respective stupid blindness that I find it hard to watch.

    I have overwatched Traviata and Rigoletto.
    I am fortunate in that I'm able to pretty much turn off the libretto of an opera in my mind if the story is distasteful! I actually approached opera as pure music first before I ever bothered to enter into the theatre of it, so it's kind of easy for me to do

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