View Poll Results: Pick only one opera by Wagner as your preferred one

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  • Die Feen

    0 0%
  • Das Liebesverbot

    0 0%
  • Rienzi

    0 0%
  • Der Fliegende Hollander

    1 3.57%
  • Tannhauser

    1 3.57%
  • Lohengrin

    2 7.14%
  • Das Rheingold

    2 7.14%
  • Die Walkure

    7 25.00%
  • Tristan und Isolde

    8 28.57%
  • Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg

    1 3.57%
  • Siegfried

    0 0%
  • Gotterdammerung

    2 7.14%
  • Parsifal

    4 14.29%
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    Opera Lively Site Owner / Administrator / Chief Editor Top Contributor Member Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)'s Avatar
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    Our Preferred Wagner Opera

    This is a very difficult question if one breaks down the Ring in four operas (so that it doesn't win automatically) and allows only one vote per person.
    Like Schigolch did for Puccini, let's see what Wagner opera is the preferred one among our members. Feel free to explain your vote by replying to the thread, in addition to voting (I'm typing this on a keyboard layout that doesn't have accentuation and I won't bother going after the codes).

    My vote: Tristan und Isolde, for its dramatic impact, sublime music, and historical importance in terms of musical evolution.
    Last edited by Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva); January 23rd, 2012 at 06:58 PM.
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    Tristan

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    Lohengrin has sometimes been called Wagner's most "Italian" opera, so that likely accounts for my preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAuer View Post
    Lohengrin has sometimes been called Wagner's most "Italian" opera, so that likely accounts for my preference.
    Sure it's his most Italian opera, just a bunch of Rossini-like numbers, total rip-off, unlike this absolutely German, heavy romantic music:

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    I prefer "Die Walküre". Feelings of Wotan and Brunnhilde in his farewell, and fantastic music that plays in this scene is, in my mind, the best operatic music ever wrote.

    Otherwise, the whole Ring is my preferred operatic work.

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    Die Walküre for me, too--I find it at once the most exciting and the most moving of Wagner's operas. Followed by Parsifal, more for its strange, decadent fascination than its overt dramatic action, and then Tristan, which falls somewhere in between those two in its effect.

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    Should be a predictable poll with Tristan und Isolde, and Die Walküre as likely leads. I picked Parsifal.

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    Die Walküre is indeed my second preferred Wagner opera after Tristan und Isolde. I do think they're the two best.
    If we consider the Ring as one, then it takes first place for me, since like for member Loge, it is my preferred operatic work overall, with Tristan und Isolde second, and Berlioz' Les Troyens third (then some Mozarts and Verdis and Handels are next).
    Back to Wagner, my order of preference (as long as the Ring is not taken as a whole) is this, today (it changes from time to time):
    1. Tristan und Isolde.
    2. Die Walküre
    3. Götterdämmerung
    4. Das Rheingold
    5. Lohengrin
    6. Tannhäuser
    7. Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg
    8. Der Fliegende Holländer
    9. Siegfried
    10. Parsifal
    11. Rienzi

    I haven't seen the other two.
    Parsifal is so low in my list because I don't like its libretto at all, although I do love its music.
    This said, being low - even Rienzi - doesn't mean I don't like these operas.
    I basically like all 11. So the ones that are pushed down on the list are so for suffering from the competition of their sisters, it doesn't mean they are not good.

    I'd like to see the two that I'm still missing. That I know, there are no DVDs of them. Are they available on YouTube?
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Tristan und Isolde. I would pick it over the entire Ring. In no other piece of music have I ever found such a fascinatingly inexhaustible source of tormenting delight. In some ways I wish I had never heard it because it's so overwhelming it's reduced my ability to enjoy everything else (kind of annoying to be listening to something and then have "god, I wish I was listening to Tristan right now!" creep into your head!)

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    I like the Ring and Lohengrin best, and of the Ring I like Die Walküre. I feel as though I should like Tristan more than I should - really I'm just waiting for the Liebestod when I listen to it.
    Natalie

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    Tristan und Isolde's first act is very interesting, Nat. As a matter of fact the entire opera is perfect from beginning to end. It's not just the Liebestod. It is a formidable story, perfectly set to music.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Well, I've made progress. The first time I listened to Tristan, I was horrified and bewildered and ready to give my CD away to anyone who would take it off my hands. I now own 2 CDs and 3 DVDs. But I don't feel as warmly towards it as I do to the Ring or Lohengrin.
    Natalie

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    Opera Lively Site Owner / Administrator / Chief Editor Top Contributor Member Luiz Gazzola (Almaviva)'s Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soave_Fanciulla View Post
    Well, I've made progress. The first time I listened to Tristan, I was horrified and bewildered and ready to give my CD away to anyone who would take it off my hands. I now own 2 CDs and 3 DVDs. But I don't feel as warmly towards it as I do to the Ring or Lohengrin.
    Hmm... On second thought, you're right, it is pretty bad, Nat. Please send your 2 CDs and 3 DVDs to me (you have the address) and I'll make sure I get rid of them for you - you know, just being a good friend.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Thanks Alma, you're always SO helpful in cases like this.
    Natalie

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    And Tristan und Isolde wins!
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