View Poll Results: Preferred Strauss Opera (choose three)

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  • Guntram

    0 0%
  • Feuersnot

    0 0%
  • Salome

    13 56.52%
  • Elektra

    11 47.83%
  • Der Rosenkavalier

    11 47.83%
  • Ariadne auf Naxos

    8 34.78%
  • Die Frau ohne Schatten

    7 30.43%
  • Intermezzo

    0 0%
  • Die ägyptische Helena

    0 0%
  • Arabella

    5 21.74%
  • Die schweigsame Frau

    0 0%
  • Friedenstag

    0 0%
  • Daphne

    0 0%
  • Die Liebe der Danae

    0 0%
  • Capriccio

    3 13.04%
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    Schigolch
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    Our preferred Richard Strauss opera

    Time now for Mr. Richard Strauss.

    We need to pick up three. Mine are Salome, Ariadne and Capriccio.

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    My number one is with no possible doubt Die Frau Ohne Schatten. Then I'd be tempted to go with either Elektra or Salome but I don't want both, they are musically conceptually similar, I'll go with Elektra. And then the dilemma is wheter or not to include his most famous blockbuster, Der Rosenkavalier. I have a problem with it, though. I love certain scenes of it, and they are as good as or better than anything we can find in his other operas, but as a whole, I feel that Der Rosenkavalier has some longueurs and some uneveness, struggling to find a tone between low brow slapstick comedy and high romance. Ariadne on the other hand I love from beginning to end, given its rather more successful attempt to marry these two aspects of operatic devices, and the opera-inside-the-opera which is much more successful than any other attempt at this kind of thing, so I'll go with Ariadne. I love many others by him and wouldn't have a problem at all placing the two I didn't pick above as fourth and fifth, and would still have fondness left for others such as Capriccio, Arabella, and Daphne. The one I can't stand is Intermezzo, what a boring opera!!!
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Voting is easy for me because I've only seen three! Der Rosenkavalier, Arabella, and Capriccio.

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    I'll go with Der Rosenkavalier, Salome, and Arabella. I agree with Alma to an extent about the unevenness of Rosenkavalier, but still can't help loving it.

    I came close to choosing Ariadne, for more or less the reasons Alma mentioned. But unlike him (and as I've written somewhere), I feel that work too is uneven. I find a disparity, not between the serious and slapstick elements, but between the expectations set up in the Prologue and the actual Opera that follows.

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    I have gone for Der Rosenkavalier, Salome and Elektra.

    With Strauss I find that my opinion fluctuates with his operas. One minte I find Elektra the best, another day Der Rosenkavalier etc etc (particularly as I just saw a great performance of Der Ros at the ENO). I do like Die Frau Ohne Schatten but have only ever seen the Solti DVD which I didn't find that great. However Bohm's audio recording is very good. I have never seen it live but hope to rectify that in the next couple of years when Bychkov brings it to London.

    I agree slightly with Amfortas in that Ariadne is uneven and for want of a better phrase a bit luvvy.

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    Rosenkavalier
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    Salome

    Ariadne is a mixed bag
    with the dreaded opera about making opera plot.....but delightful Zerbinetta character was a brilliant touch, mavelous arias for her

    Rosenkavalier is king because of elegant music, posh settings and very intricate character interplay with 4 main characters. The Marschallin must guide her young "apprentice" lover Octavian (the rosenkavalier) to find his true love in life. In presenting the silver rose he discovers his future love Sophie and her defiance of her fathers marriage demands and instant crush on Octavian set the wheels in motion.....Baron Ochs the villian you love to hate, comic in his poor boorish manners

    Salome on the other hand is violent highly charged drama that does away with these silly love themes, there is sex death bood insanity..........ohhhhhhhhh yeah

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    Elektra votes for Elektra, Salome and Der Rosenkavalier

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    Like Amfortas I'm voting for Salome, Rosenkavalier and Arabella - but I'm not a great Strauss fan.
    Natalie

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    Oh wow, sounds like people are all over the place in their R. Strauss preferences!
    But I'm shocked, I'll tell you, shocked that nobody else picked Die Frau Ohne Schatten! That opera is a spectacular masterpiece!!!
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    I don't know it and I'm waiting for this to come out:

    Natalie

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    Uhoh, buyer beware. The magic of Die Frau Ohne Schatten is that it is a fairy tale. Like Rusalka. I think neither one benefits from updating.
    "J'ai dit qu'il ne suffisait pas d'entendre la musique, mais qu'il fallait encore la voir" (Stravinsky)

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    Point taken, Alma, but I don't mind updated Rusalka, so this might be OK.
    Natalie

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    Salome, Elektra, Der Rosenkavalier, Ariadne auf Naxos . Well, I mean several of the others are very fine. I think Richard Strauss was one of the greatest 20th century composers full stop.

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    I've heard Strauss called the greatest composer of the 20th century.

    I don't know if that's true. But he was definitely the greatest 19th-century composer of the 20th century!

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    You mean the greatest 19th-century composer of the 20th century not named Giacomo, right?

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